ive been banned for no reason...

[steven1993]

Hey everyone

I'am steven... i play with the name Stevoo.Be in the server.

It taked me a while for put this on the forum becauze i didnt had the acces.
Anyway... the reason why ive been banned is all lies!..

People say that i was wallacking/aimbotting but thats not true.
I can show it to a admin how i play... while we calling on skype or something idk...

Hope some off the admin have time to watch me playing in the server...

Greetz.. Stevoo (Steven). Steam name : Steven119253438
Skype name : WestSteven

I still have the acces to secured servers so if i had been hacked i also would be hacked on vac servers.... and i'am not <.<


[BTW: I played 1 year in a other rats2k4 server named 'Xrated' ... and all the admin said i got skills,, and i dont hack <.< ]

[StatiC]

I have your confession right here.

http://img510.imageshack.us/f/stevoo.jpg/

You confessed about hacking before and i bet the whole teamspeak story is BS.

I don't think he should be unbanned.

[fruitbowl 1]

What static posted is making it hard to believe you. I recognize your nick and I have played with you but I can't remember if you were cheating or anything and I'm not the one that banned you but that conversation says it all.

[Flubbel]

I dont know, if Ive been the one who banned you. I remember your name anyhow, so it could be me..

Question:
How did you know that youve been banned for aimbot? Did you get a message like "reason: aimbot" or what? If yes, it wasnt me.. If no, you couldnt know why you get the ban!

Next question:
You wrote, you had wh, but you were banned for aimbot. If you had wh, there WAS a reason for ban? Did you think about that? I dont think so!

There is a saying, better in german, but in english also nice:
Once a liar, always a liar <-- Of course you have to transfer it into this situation, but for me its the same with hackers..
Ive often been badly disappointed by friends/friends of my friends who used hacks, get ban, sweared not to use them again and the rest you can imagin by your own! (Not at this server)

Well, lets go through other points of your text:

1) Anyway... the reason why ive been banned is all lies!..


2) I can show it to a admin how i play... while we calling on skype or something idk...


3) I still have the acces to secured servers so if i had been hacked i also would be hacked on vac servers.... and i'am not <.<


4) [BTW: I played 1 year in a other rats2k4 server named 'Xrated' ... and all the admin said i got skills,, and i dont hack <.< ]

1) Do you know all the reasons?

2) Why do you want to show the admins your gameplay? Im sure you wont use hacks then, but it will NEVER AND IN NO WAY mean, that you didnt use hacks THAT time !!

3) Ok, if I get the point: Youre saying, that if you would have used cheats at rats2k4, you would also have used it at other, vac secured servers, and there you didnt get a ban? Im sorry, but I dont understand it, not if I understood what youve said and not if you have meant something else!

4) Im really sorry, but I dont care what other admins at other servers say about anyone.. It could be that you are skilled and ALSO a hacker? And I dont know if these admins are good in their job!

Please correct me if Im wrong anywhere!

Thats about me! I dont want to be mean to anyone, I dont want to blame anyone, I dont want to say "no" to give anyone another chance..

I need other or just better reasons for unbanning players! I also dont think we need a record, because you told StatiC already, that you HAD cheats! (or do I mix up anything?)


Well, much text, but I think he should get the chance to defend himself!

=)

[Doggie52]

The three admins above have very clearly and well expressed doubts about your story - I am inclined to agree. I should like to search for you in my logs, however it seems as if your ban was so far back that those logs are unreachable.

If nobody comes forward and explains why they banned you then you can add me on Steam and we can talk about the matter.

[StatiC]

I still don't know if I was the one who took the ban but i found these when i was looking through my demo folder.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?u1b9ulv7r7zufec

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?w88jiruhmr9jsi1

I Doubt i would have taken the ban with only 2 short demos.

[steven1993]

awww so many negatieve commands about me ... Anyway i will start with my storie ^^

First of all... Static.. ok i told you i have wallhack and i used to you... only you..remeber the time i was in a server ALONE with you and noone was there.... Then i turned it on to play with you... <.< like as i said... if i would be a hacker... i will hack in every server..

And i cant watch those demo's you sended...

Ok then.... Fruitbowl.. ofc did you played with me... you owned my ass off like no one can... And i know with what Static said its hard to belive what i said.. but scroll up and read what i told too StatiC and think again ^^

Flubbel... I didnt get a msg... but what i know is that people says i had aimbot... and ther was a admin spectating me and bam... perm ban (no reason)

I have wallhack yes... but i dont use it... There was no one in the server when i used against Static...

1) The reasons people said to me is Aimbot or speedhack (but i think ther is a special knife mod ===> right ??)

2) I wont show admins my gameplay... just the special trick and they way i look... And will tell the info by using my voice..

3) "if you would have used cheats at rats2k4, you would also have used it at other, vac secured servers, and there you didnt get a ban?" ===> almost correct ^-^

=> If i would used cheats at rats2k4, i would also used it to other vac secured servers.... and would i get a VAC BAN = cant play on any 'vac' secured server
anymore... and i'am not vac banned

4) Owkeej, was just saying it... maybe it rings a bell that i played like 1 year in rats2k4 so i know all the tricks,hides,rushplaces,campplaces, anything

Too doggie... Ok... I hope you can check my log (i have no idea what that is xD) .. Anyway ..

Too everyone... I hope you guys would accept me back becauze the rats2k4 server is awesome... Have fun and take car y'all ^-^


[Sorry about my bad english i tried too typ it correct ;-) ]

[Flubbel]

And i cant watch those demo's you sended...

Well, its complicated to watch demo files.. If you dont know how, here is the tutorial:
Save the file into the folder "cstrike" (or if you use another language at steam it could also be "cstrike_swe / cstrike_german / cstrike_...).
This folder is normally placed into "C:\Program Files \Steam\steamapps\YOUR ACCOUNT NAME\counter-strike\cstrike" <- there =D
If you use Windows 7 it can also be placed into "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\YOUR ACCOUNT NAME\counter-strike\cstrike".
After putting the file there, open cs and type "playdemo WHOLEDEMONAME" into console (open with ^ ) and it will start playing the record.

But back to theme..

Flubbel... I didnt get a msg... but what i know is that people says i had aimbot... and ther was a admin spectating me and bam... perm ban (no reason)

Well, so you dont know if you get the ban for aimbot or for wh! I never believe in any player who says someone got cheats, doesnt mean I dont look them up!

I have wallhack yes... but i dont use it... There was no one in the server when i used against Static...

Ok, but you have to agree with me, when I say that if you had wh and you used it already, we cant be sure you wont use it again! =)

1) The reasons people said to me is Aimbot or speedhack (but i think ther is a special knife mod ===> right ??)

Yes, right.. There is a knife mod at the server. But I dont think you get the ban for speedhack.. And about the aimbot, well.. I dont know.. There arent many persons Ive banned for aimbot! Most of them had wh..

2) I wont show admins my gameplay... just the special trick and they way i look... And will tell the info by using my voice..

Well, ok.. Ill add you and I want to see something =D

3) "if you would have used cheats at rats2k4, you would also have used it at other, vac secured servers, and there you didnt get a ban?" ===> almost correct ^-^

Ok, good =D


=> If i would used cheats at rats2k4, i would also used it to other vac secured servers.... and would i get a VAC BAN = cant play on any 'vac' secured server
anymore... and i'am not vac banned

Well, this is a statement noone can check! We have to believe in you (or not =P).

4) Owkeej, was just saying it... maybe it rings a bell that i played like 1 year in rats2k4 so i know all the tricks,hides,rushplaces,campplaces, anything

Aah, ok.. Now I get the idea behind the statement .. =D We will see after weve played together some rounds =)

[Sorry about my bad english i tried too typ it correct ;-) ]

Your english is not that bad and it is good that you have tried it! =)

And btw. ty and you should take care too =D

Ive got one last question: When did you get the ban?

=)

Wait! I know you! Youve added me anytime! Or am I wrong?

I remember your steam picture and your steam name! Anyhow..

[steven1993]

ok thank you! xD i found it well anyway idk static what your point is at your demo... idk what other admins think about that... But if that is wallhack...^-^

[Trick : Allways look to Vent first and then the Plant when i'am under the fridge. ]

Ok you can add me ==> Steven119253438 ,, idk in what kinda server you wanna see me playing...

When did i get the ban xD uhmm... i think around 3-4 months ago.. :'/

I really really (really) want too play back ^^becauze counter strike is kinda bored without the server ^^ (i'am a rats freak)

Greeeeeetz ^-^

Wait! I know you! Youve added me anytime! Or am I wrong?

I remember your steam picture and your steam name! Anyhow..

Thats true Flubbel ^^ ... idk if you remember it but i used once the name ==> 'Stevoo<3Flubbel.Be'

grtz

[Doggie52]

Steve, the "logs" are text files where everything everyone says and does is recorded all the time. If I had had the logs from 4 months back I would be able to see who banned you, but in this case I do not. If no other demos arise before this week is over I will proceed to unban you.
I hope I don't need to tell you that if you ever are caught cheating again you will be permanently banned!

[steven1993]

OK thank you Doggie

Greatz

[Whiskey]

I got a question. Aint Ghosting in skype the same as cheat mostly? cause ghost is mostly the same as wh if you ask me,

[fruitbowl 1]

It gives you advantage but not really the same overkill advantage as wh. So if there's going to be a punishment for ghosting, it shouldn't be permanent ban if you ask me. So to me their not equal.

[Whiskey]

Yeah fruitbowl you'r right there. it ain't the same as wh but i would say it should be a week ban.

[Scoarden]

It gives you advantage but not really the same overkill advantage as wh. So if there's going to be a punishment for ghosting, it shouldn't be permanent ban if you ask me. So to me their not equal.

i agree with fruitbowl1, the punishment shoudlnt be sooo hard. But the thing is: how do you want to proove ghosting? its not that easy as wh, where someone shoots through a wall and kills another one... that happens at ghosting too, but only rarely. i opened a topic for this whiskey, if you want to see how the others deal with it, or if you want to add something.